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Is Obama the Antichrist?

July 6th 2009 14:25
Is Barack Obama the Antichrist? That question is asked more and more these days and the answer usually depends on your religious and political beliefs. According to Christian Beliefs the Antichrist is a seemingly Christ Like person who will bring on the end of the world. He will be loved by many but spotted for what he is by true believers in Christ.

Now I want to get into my beliefs so they will be known to the readers. I am an Agnostic, meaning I have not made up my mind yet. The whole science of the thing and people thinking the Earth is only 6,000 years old or so, stops me from being a Christian. I also think about the fact that your religion is mostly based on where you were born.


The side of me that leans towards being a Christian is one I was raised around them. Two I don’t believe in the big bang theory. I don’t see how there is nothing then something blows up and creates us all. I also think the universe shows signs of intelligent design (though liberals very being discount that) but whether God exists isn’t the topic of this article.

To be honest I know more about the Antichrist from reading the Left Behind books than I do the Bible. So Is Barack Obama the Antichrist? In a short answer no I do not believe Barack Obama is the literal Antichrist.

There are three main reasons why I do not think Barack Obama is the literal Antichrist.

1 Being Agnostic I struggle to believe that Barack Obama will bring on the end of the world and battle God. He may well bring on the end of the world as we know it but I don’t think in the Biblical sense.

2 Too many people have been against Barack Obama from the start, he isn’t the universally loved person depicted as the Anti Christ, who will lose followers as he grows stronger. I can very well see the comparison because many people do love him despite his obvious evil intentions for the United States and the World in general. And in fact from all the dead voters who voted for him, he does have some unique powers! But far too many people have opposed him from the start.


3 Translations of the Bible tend to differ as to where the Antichrist will be born. And the fact that Obama’s birth place is so in question is a selling point for those who think he IS the Antichrist.

Some Christians look for signs of Armageddon and feel they are seeing them. Earthquakes, famine and all the rest. Well the problem is that we always have earthquakes and famine. They can ties these events in with Obama’s evil intentions (from my point of view anyway) and conclude that he is the Antichrist.

There is no doubt with his attacks on our economy with Cap and Trade, his attempt at population control with Obamacare and his dislike of Israel, Obama has the potential for evil. But I do not believe Barack Obama is the Antichrist.


The Antichrist
English: Picture of the Antichrist and his believers in a window of the St. Marien church of Frankfurt (Oder), Germany

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Comment by S.L.

July 6th 2009 15:45
I just posted this, Randy. Check it out. It scares the snot out of me... Maybe he isn't the Antichrist, but he sure seems to be putting on a good performance of wanting to be.

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Comment by Lester Caudill

July 6th 2009 22:29
Hey Randy I think the jury is still out on that one, and as far as know how old the earth is, well the bible does say that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as one day. I don't think anyone can accurately put a date on it.

But we see the hand of the creator in everything present, there is no way things could have just by chance evolved to what we are today. each specie is unique and perfect in its design. The seasons come on time, and the sun and moon have a perfect movement it couldn't have happen by accident. Sorry to ramble on Randy.


Comment by S.L.

July 6th 2009 22:36
Lester, I always figured that no one knows how long one of Gods days is. The sequence of events is accurate.

Comment by kywrite

July 6th 2009 23:24
This is a debate I avoid, on both sides. We aren't meant to know who or when, if you believe in the Antichrist and Armageddon as taught by Christians, and it's more constructive for all of us to be vigilant against evil and tyranny whenever and wherever it arises.

I'd prefer to keep my battles on a more earthly plane, and trust God to take care of the rest.

Comment by Mike Pouraryan

July 7th 2009 05:19
Randy,

the potential for evil....wow!!!


Comment by samaritan

July 7th 2009 06:49
Hi Randy,

Short answer - no.

Also, I don't believe the world is 6000 years old. But I am a Christian.

Samaritan

Comment by jkund17

July 7th 2009 13:57
Hey! Don't be hatin on our Great President!! And there's a reason why church and state don't mix either and never will...."with his attacks on our economy" : r you for real.......Bush make it a lot worse. Obama is doing all the damage control...

Comment by kywrite

July 7th 2009 14:20
Proof that kids don't learn math anymore. Sigh. R U ignert?

Look very carefully at the graph in the link below. It is pretty self-explanatory if you learned anything at all in school.

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Comment by jkund17

July 8th 2009 02:15
kywrite: R U ignert? or Confused? What do u think would happen to our consumer based economy if he didn't spent some gov money to get things going again?? Things in the USA could of gotten a lot worse.Think about it...You should b thankful....unless you wanna live through a depression but not me. No thank-you..things already cost to much.thank god for p2p and torrents.....And I learned plenty in school, Thank you very much!! Try looking at the big picture instead of all the negatives.

Comment by kywrite

July 8th 2009 02:40
jkund, did you bother to look at the graph or read any of the linked article I referenced? Obama's stimulus spends AS MUCH US MONEY AS THERE CURRENTLY IS IN CIRCULATION. It spends more than the GDP of most countries in the world. It is stupid to spend that much money you don't have.

But you know, time will tell. I shop for the family, and I'm already seeing 30-60% price rises on certain staples I get all the time. We're going to hit hyperinflation within a year or two, bank on it. I plan to buy a house before that happens. (that is me looking at the big picture -- I'm going to benefit, damn it. Owing the same, but with dollars worth less -- yep, that works out for buying a home.)

And what do I think would have happened without a stimulus package at all? Not much. The business world is terrified of the inflation they foresee, so no one's hiring, but people are still cutting jobs and going out of business. The only good thing happening is some offshored manufacturing is coming back because the dollar is weak overseas and it's getting cheaper, due to transportation and labor costs, to just make a lot of things at home.

Had the "stimulus" been a package of tax cuts and removal of the nutty equal-opportunity-no-matter-y our-credit-rating stuff they did in the 90s, would we be better off today? You betcha.

Comment by kywrite

July 8th 2009 02:55
jkund, did you bother to look at the graph or read any of the linked article I referenced? Obama's stimulus spends AS MUCH US MONEY AS THERE CURRENTLY IS IN CIRCULATION. It spends more than the GDP of most countries in the world. It is stupid to spend that much money you don't have.

But you know, time will tell. I shop for the family, and I'm already seeing 30-60% price rises on certain staples I get all the time. We're going to hit hyperinflation within a year or two, bank on it. I plan to buy a house before that happens. (that is me looking at the big picture -- I'm going to benefit, damn it. Owing the same, but with dollars worth less -- yep, that works out for buying a home.)

And what do I think would have happened without a stimulus package at all? Not much. The business world is terrified of the inflation they foresee, so no one's hiring, but people are still cutting jobs and going out of business. Uncertainty, you see, is very bad for business. The only good thing happening is some previously-offshored manufacturing is coming back because the dollar is weak overseas and it's getting cheaper, due to transportation and labor costs, to just make a lot of things at home.

Had the "stimulus" been a package of tax cuts and removal of the nutty equal-opportunity-no-matter-y our-credit-rating stuff they did in the 90s, would we be better off today? You betcha. Had we let the weak car companies and banks that made bad decisions die would we be better off today? Again, you betcha -- the individual workers would be hard to absorb into the economy again, but they'd find jobs again, often better ones, and mostly within a year or less.

Comment by Jeff Musall

July 11th 2009 22:10
Randy, that you even would address a topic like this with anything approaching a serious take tells me your most likely not an agnostic, but a cowardly christian, unable to come to grips with the shortcomings of your mythology...just my opinion...as for whether you "believe" the big bang...knowledge isn't something you believe or don't, you either know it or don't. Like gravity. Don't believe in it all day long, you still won't fly...
As for the idiocy KY writes about, more tax cuts? Are you really that stupid? Look at history, every major downturn was preceded by tax cuts, especially to the rich..as for the mortgage crisis that some think caused this, all the failed mortages add up to only a little over 300 billion...the problem was that they were marketed in so many different ways as to make the losses in the trillions...the financial industry brought this, coupled with tax cuts. Tax cuts to the wealthy spur bubble investment cycles, not the opposite.

Comment by Randy Inman

July 11th 2009 22:22
Jeff your hatred for all religion runs deep guy. I guess if I am a Christian that gives you all the more reason to drop in and insult writers here. Well sorry I really am Agnostic.

Comment by kywrite

July 12th 2009 20:54
Changed government regulations tend to spur bubble investments. In the case of real estate, overly-available credit paired with lax credit standards encouraged people who should never have bought a house to purchase one. These two problems can be traced back to progressive Republicans and progressive Democrats, including one who was having an affair with the Director of Housing Initiatives at Fannie Mae, making the Dems literally in bed with the corporation most directly responsible for the housing crisis.

But you know what? No matter what I say, you're going to say I'm wrong with vague support, then call me stupid.That's the exact thing you've done for years, and I don't see you changing any time soon. Name me a couple situations where an economic downturn has been preceded with tax cuts -- and I mean immediately preceded by significant tax cuts that weren't offset by tax increases. You certainly aren't talking about the 1980s, when crippling inflation, horrific unemployment numbers, and a top-end tax rate of over 70% were completely turned around when Reagan cut taxes 25% across the board.

Or how about the early 1960s, when JFK showed wisdom beyond his years by slashing the highest tax rate from 91% to 70%, spurring a sustained period of economic growth only slowed by the Vietnam War and LBJ's progressive initiatives. Great leaders in both political parties have seen the wisdom of tax cuts to spur growth.

Common sense tells us all that if we have more money in our pockets, we spend it on stuff. The merchants that benefit from our cash spend it on other things, and cash flow keeps the economy strong. When the government takes so much of it that IT has the ability to control consumption, those individual merchants no longer benefit, but rather the friends of people directly running the government do. Result: a few get wealthy, most get poorer -- the exact thing you claim to abhor.

Also, the economy is not based on how many dollars are in it, but rather on how frequently those dollars are spent, as well as how and where. When the government controls those three variables - generally via taxation - you see an economic downturn. When individuals control them, you see free market capitalism and mostly healthy economies.

Bah, why am I explaining this to you? Closed minds don't respond to reason. Put up or shut up.

(And -- I'm not Christian either. Best look elsewhere for your bash-fundamentalists fix.)

Comment by Jeff Musall

July 13th 2009 01:07
OK, it's been said you can't teach a monkey calculus, but I'm gonna give it a go...the inflation and high unemployment in the 70s were by and large the consequence of Nixon's aritficial economy built around hidind the cost of Vietnam...remember price controls?
As for Reagan being the tax cut god, you are probably going to deny he presided over the largest tax hike in American history, doubling FICA (I'll bet you're against lifting the cap, though, eh?)
The same thing happens with tax cuts to the wealthy each and every single time....they begin to run out of standard investments they like, and look for ways to make a quick buck..they use their influence to get regulations lowered..then the foxes run to the henhouse. It's a fact every single defaulted mortage could have been paid for in full for half of the cost of the bank bailout....they leveraged, bet, resold, repackaged, and made wealth out of nothing....and now that wealth isn't there...
I would contend the economy has been in real recession for 8 years, with real wage and manufacturing going down...the numbers were propped up by a house of cards built around easy credit - not just home mortgages, but cards, bank loans, etc, etc,

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