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Are we headed for a one world government?

June 8th 2009 21:48
Are we headed for a one world government or do we have one already? Sound like some dark conspiracy to you? Yeah it has to me as well for years but I love a good conspiracy theory and monitor some of the sites that promote them.

I am still not sure if we are indeed heading for a one world government but let me lay this out for discussion. Despite all the to do about Obama taking over for George Bush, he is pretty much doing the same things Bush was doing. Keeping Gitmo open and the Homeland Security laws which are just legal means to keep American Citizens under surveillance. Obama didn’t change the so called torture laws because there were no laws broken anyway and he wants to be able to waterboard people if needed.


Obama even has mentioned a world order in speeches as have the Bush’s. Go check out Infowars.com for all the information on one world government that you could ever process.

Frankly if I have a good job and can support my family I don’t have a problem with a one world government. But I sense it would be the worst police state in the history of the world and would incite rebellion in dozens of countries. I would love to hear other people’s opinions on this.
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Comment by S.L.

June 8th 2009 22:14
As much as I love sci-fi (especially Star Trek), Randy, I don't see a World Government being anything but disastrous at this point. The multitude of countries are so different and are at different stages of progress (economically) that it wouldn't be possible to govern them all equally and fairly. Imagine trying to use the same set of rules for America, Uganda, Bolivia and Iceland. Too many different cultures. Try governing from Prague and telling Muslims in France that they aren't allowed to riot. Cultural diversity sounds good on the surface, but unless there is some common ground, it won't work.

Look at the European countries that have growing Muslim populations and can't put an end to the violence, even within their own borders. The best way I can see to unite the countries and have them work together is to allow each to run their own business without some central government telling them how to do things. The UN has tried and failed miserably at every turn.

That being said, we need some form of international law to prevent genocide and protect civilian populations from the sort of strife that Sri Lanka has gone through. Since the UN is such a waste of effort, we should disband it and form a council that can act when necessary and back off when not needed.

Comment by signals

June 8th 2009 22:26
Thanks for the site!

In answer to your question, I personally don't believe a one world government is the way to go. But I am going to say that that is where we are heading whether we want to or not.

Comment by Lilla

June 9th 2009 01:26
Randy,

Not an easy question for me to answer but I cannot see how it can be avoided in a world of shrinking resources? There are a few perspectives to consider, including conspiracy theories and alien agendas I s*pose, if one is to keep an open mind.

However, I always try to look at the basics and they are simple enough; He who controls the food, controls the world. (and a clue here is perhaps that it is not the governments of the world today) . .

But back at base camp : mismanaged resources, dwindling as a result of those same bungling governments also in debt, greater demand than supply, escalating populations clamouring for more food than farmers can grow and we quickly come to the realms few want to look at honestly; Geneic modification, hydroponics and *one world* conglomerates who own the world through its food production.

Perhaps there will come a time when both sides themselves will question whether or not they need governments as we know them today, at all?

There are no options within the fractional reserve banking system as we know it as it is a makeshift, fictitional system which must come to its own by virtue of its very structure. So it makes sense that a new system will have to incorporate it. Cue Star Trek like Federation of countries without the need for money as we know it? . . Makes sense if all citizens are to be clothed and fed? Very Chinese.

But how do you police this changeover. Ivan Stein*s world tour included talks about over 60 detention centres already built around the US in preparation for the 2012 geophysical mess and the lock downs it is predicted to incurr, and that microchipping is already on the cards, microchips which can be *switched off?*?

You can see I have thought about this in depth and gone around many circles here over the ensuing years . . ((laughs)) because I have tried to look at it at the grass roots level. That is what if the money system as we know *changes over*? The banks (as we know them) will close, they can*t recall the mortgages can they? ALL the people would be on the streets kiling each other for a loaf of bread and the houses empty, that is silly. So along they come and you are microchipped instead if you want to keep your home? You are assigned a job and rations to go with that and either reassigned a home with that job, or keep your own? Like star trek we somehow emerge in another way from there, under a federation of countries. . one country produces beef, one potatoes, another cabbages and so on.

God only knows how though, because China is the one who will never ascent to it, it seems, yet : they too rely so heavily now on the fractional banking system themselves now too, but we are talking a deep form of comunism, yet it is also democratic. What of Korea? What of our seperate religions and beliefs under this system?

A hybrid democracy where all the conglomerates of the world form the one ruling *government* although it will not be government as we know it, as its ass is also owned by the ruling elite, is it not? Perhaps a way for Overlords to return?

Charming thought!

Annoying because it is clearly this money system which makes slaves of us and in our need for it we have been nicely herded into cities, totally dependant on our governments and the fractional banking reserve itself for our food ~ just like Egyptian slaves. Way to go human race.

Theory #1 : the ruling elite can leave for the space station, leaving us to fight it out amongst ourselves, if geophysical mess or pandemic occurs. Then back they come and it all starts again, as new one world order?

hahaha that is one of my personal favourite nutter theories!

Theory #2 : We were given technology by aliens to enslave us and that the overlords will return to collect the human slaves at a later date, soon to be here as we all gather in nice compact cities?

Theory #3 : all is as it is and a result of our own fall and greed and what have you and it will have to play itself out like Mad Max until the Golden Age is reached ~ DS9 and the Dominion war years revisted?

Theory #4 : there will be three sub governments under the one great power. 1. The Euro Dollar 2. The Amero and 3. The Austro (when Australia will link with Asia?). .

Theory #5 : a Pandemic will soon be released to relieve the burden on the worlds food supply and right all the wrongs, so whats the problem?

Theory #6 : Another of my favourites : Things will go on as it always has and nothing will change, it is all a conspiracy theory. The world population is not growing and resources are not dwindling and there is no global warming. The Fractional Money Reserve system can keep manufacturing money out of thin air ~ when there is absolutely nothing to back it up ~ resource wise or any other way. There could NEVER be a one world super power or even a conglomeration of ruling elite. How silly is that a notion?

ha ha ha!

Theory #7 : Ascension of the human race to the less corporeal 5th Dimension?

I can*t decide, but like you, I hope there is a meal in it for me somewhere too, somewhere with a ncie temporate climate?

Lilla . .

Comment by Damo

June 9th 2009 03:10
No I do not think that is physcally possible to achieve in my lifetime.

Now we can all get some sleep.


Comment by Mountain Fog

June 9th 2009 13:26
Actually, it might be easier done than people think!

I believe they would not try and dismantle the public identities of sovereign governments, but, control through a new form of 'cooperation' with international investment and banking schemes, done under the guise of making it all safer and more stable, than the current financial status...which it will be, but, at a huge cost to local civil liberties and workers conditions.

We live in interesting times...

cheers

fog

Comment by Wilson Pon

June 9th 2009 13:36
I'm second after Damo, as it's easier said than done here, Randy!

However, it might be possible in one circumstance, where all the human beings from around the globe have been brainwashing and only obey to one person's order (Oh mine, it started to sound like the Dalek...)

Comment by Lester Caudill

June 9th 2009 17:53
I believe we are headed that way Randy, and it will be disaster.

Comment by Jeff Musall

June 9th 2009 23:27
It's inevitable, someday - but what will probably have to happen first is the widespread discrediting and/or rejection of religion - christian, muslim, whatever...once the superstitions that have hindered us are gone, we can take the step. OK, here's my Star Trek talking, but I think it might take contact from an alien planet.

Comment by S.L.

June 9th 2009 23:32
Maybe Scotty will beam you up, Jeff. The rest of us will just stay here and cling to our guns, religion and Constitution.

Comment by Randy Inman

June 10th 2009 01:04
One I have heard often is that the elite will unleash a virus on us and kill the majority of the population.

I don't think we could have a one world government with the current number of people on the planet. Unless it was under Islam the Muslims would fight it forever.

Comment by Natalina

June 10th 2009 04:04
I agree with Fog here. It would be a far easier transition than people think.

First of all, a lot of the difficult parts are already handled...European Union, World Bank, global economic depression, failure of national currencies, dismantling of the constitution (In U.S.), etc etc etc.

The NWO is already here in some ways. And that isn't paranoid ranting, that's just a fact. And if we do go all of the way toward a One World Gov't, I predict it will look nothing like the Sci Fi notions we've concocted. It will be something we are slowly and deliberately eased into, and I imagine it may be sooner than later.

I'll now remove my tinfoil hat.


Comment by Natalina

June 10th 2009 04:04
I agree with Fog here. It would be a far easier transition than people think.

First of all, a lot of the difficult parts are already handled...European Union, World Bank, global economic depression, failure of national currencies, dismantling of the constitution (In U.S.), etc etc etc.

The NWO is already here in some ways. And that isn't paranoid ranting, that's just a fact. And if we do go all of the way toward a One World Gov't, I predict it will look nothing like the Sci Fi notions we've concocted. It will be something we are slowly and deliberately eased into, and I imagine it may be sooner than later.

I'll now remove my tinfoil hat.


Comment by GlenB

June 10th 2009 06:27
A balance of power is more sustainable. Refer to George Orwells futuristic novel 1984 in which the world is divided into three superpowers, with shifting borders and allegiances, that are perpetually at war.

Comment by Lawrie

June 10th 2009 21:26
I doubt if there will ever be a world government.

Look at the experiment going on in Europe with the European Union. The so-called democracy, as seen through the eyes of the European politicos is one of "We decide - You concur". In my country, the UK, the majority of the population are against entry and the promised referendum to enable a .vote has never taken place. Meanwhile, due to political machinations, we are governed to an extent by European laws which take priority over our own laws. This has resulted in quite a lot of angry people. The people of Ireland held a referendum and voted "No" to Europe. The European parliament then ordered the Irish government to hold another referendum.

There you have only a very small sample from a very small corner of the world. Hence the reason I cannot see a future world with only one government.

Comment by Randy Inman

June 10th 2009 22:08
Thanks for all the comments everyone. This is very interesting.

Comment by TastefulWriter

June 11th 2009 01:18
When taxpayer money went to the banks to bail them out, I knew a One World Government was near.

A One World Government means that the rich will be able to push around poor people more than they already do.

In a One World Government, the banks will be in control.

Don't let a One World Government happen.

Comment by S.L.

June 11th 2009 01:29
It's not "the rich", Tasteful Writer, it's the politicians (most of whom have considerably more money than they've earned). Some would call the newly unemployed car lot owners "rich" but the politicians stole everything from them. The "rich" hire people and pay for goods and services that keep our economy going. Hating them is silly. Do you ask someone on welfare for a job? No, you ask a business owner for a job. A rich man can hire you, a poor man cannot.

As for the banks being in control, remember who owns the banks now. Crooked politicians.

Comment by TastefulWriter

June 11th 2009 17:20
Your perspective reads as an employee. When you're self-employed, however, you lay the concrete down on your own road.

Mergers and acquisitions by the wealthy few have narrowed competition.

Standing up to the wealthy will result in opening up competition.




Comment by S.L.

June 11th 2009 18:05
Standing up to the wealthy? How about standing up to the crooked politicians, TastefulWriter? I have been both an employee and an employer. There are people who would call me rich. When I hire someone, it is because I need their services. Being forced to hire people who aren't good at whatever job I need done, to please a union, wouldn't make me very happy. We don't need politicians dictating to us who to hire or what to pay. Business is a contract between the employer, the employee and those who use the products or services provided.

This class envy is just a device that comes from the White House to keep people unhappy and voting Democrat.

Comment by TastefulWriter

June 11th 2009 18:20
Unions are problematic. Isn't it the Union that destroyed the car industry? "We won't take a pay cut.", the union leaders shout as GM goes bankrupt.

Comment by S.L.

June 11th 2009 18:26
Oh yes, TastefulWriter, the union started out to be a good thing and has turned bad. They'll still get what they want as the American taxpayer pays the bill and the government takes over the car industry. Politicians allowed this to happen, and even encouraged it. Lots of the car lot owners who were considered "rich" a week ago now have nothing. Their employees, by the hundreds of thousands are now out of work. That's politicians, not rich people, causing the disaster.

Comment by Natalina

June 11th 2009 19:25
I don't think that it is the fault of generally well to do business owners or entrpreneurs that we are in this mess. However, for the sake of argument, don't you think that the uber-wealthy, let's say the Walton family or any of the big corporate CEOs bear some responsibility for the state of decline in our economy? After all, it is the greed of certain corporations that have made it nearly impossible for the average Joe to be a business owner.

In fact, I would agree with both sides, in that I feel the line between politician and mega-corporations are pretty blurred anyway. Hand in hand, yes?

Comment by S.L.

June 11th 2009 19:38
Natalina, some of the big business people are crooks, I agree. They get enormous bonuses for running their companies into the ground. Stock holders starve, managers prosper. It's a few dishonest business people working with dishonest politicians. The whole bunch of them needs to be unemployed. Permanently. Maybe they'll like welfare, who knows?

Comment by Randy Inman

June 11th 2009 20:42
I believe the U.S. Government at least is going for a monopoly in the major industries.

Comment by Anonymous

June 22nd 2009 20:41
The bible predicts the emergence of a one world government led by a single individual who will come under the auspices of peace and will usher in a 7 year peace treaty with Israel, a single currency and impantable microchips to control all trade (this technology is already in use) the signs of the times are upon us and the Messiah (Jesus) is a heartbeat away

Comment by S.L.

June 22nd 2009 20:58
And the false "messiah" is already in the White House. Just ask the MSM, Anonymous.

Comment by Anonymous

June 22nd 2009 21:18
Well S.L - Henry Kissinger made this statement, Obama primed to create 'New World Order'
Now of course Kissinger is a member of the organisations pushing this agenda #i.e Council Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission and the Bilbergers#

Comment by S.L.

June 22nd 2009 21:22
And what shall we do with the false god and his minions, Anonymous? Those who pay attention already see him for what he is...

Comment by Anonymous

June 22nd 2009 21:46
amd as one of those who pay attention what do you see him as? Also I am not claiming he is necessarily what the bible calls the 'anti-christ' but I do believe he will play a role in preparing the way for U.S complicity in submitting to a global authority under a world government headed by the anti christ, as predicted in the bible, for a final 7 year period. The book of Daniel, thousands of years ago, not only predicted three world empires befor they had even become world powers (i.e. the Medo-Persian, Greek - under Alexander the Great, Roman) and finally a revived Roman Empire made up of 10 core nations (aka the current European Union) that would set the framwork for a global government - don't just take my word for it check it out in the bible.. i can give you a chronology of events that will take place from here on in, if there is credibility on what I say then you will see this things start to happen

Comment by S.L.

June 22nd 2009 21:53
I'm familiar with the Bible, Anonymous. And it isn't difficult to see what is coming. Doesn't make it any easier to see what's about to happen. Prayer is all we have at this point. You could use your own name, though...

Comment by Troy Geri

June 22nd 2009 22:04
Hi S.L - sorry - doing all this a bit rushed in between getting my two children ready for school and breakfasts (it is 8.00am over here in Australia - Victoria)... I hadn't heard anyone in the thread mention the bible prophecy aspect of this topic and hence why I raised it. Yes, prayer is a powerful weapon and one the enemy hates it... Nice chatting with you and God Bless you, I'm about to head off with my two children to drive them to school, will read your reply on my return..

Comment by S.L.

June 22nd 2009 22:08
Hi Troy. Nice to know you have a name! LOL It's evening here in the US and I have livestock to feed soon.

My main concern is that the MSM is so busy slobbering all over B.O. (B.S.) and calling him a "god." No matter what he does, they keep drooling on him and singing his praises to high Heaven. I have a suspicion that Heaven isn't all that pleased.

Comment by Randy Inman

June 22nd 2009 22:10
I have been discussing the Bible aspect of Obama on Twitter. I am not even Religious but it has me wondering.

Comment by S.L.

June 22nd 2009 22:12
You don't have to be a cartographer to see where a map leads, Randy!

Comment by Jeff Musall

June 23rd 2009 00:42
Ah, anti-worker hate speech seasoned with christo-fascist end-time melodrama...one would laugh, if only so many weren't so blinded by the same ideology..

Comment by S.L.

June 23rd 2009 00:47
Blinded Jeff? Really? Only those too dense to learn from history fail to see what's coming. But maybe you should find a good optometrist (or perhaps a proctologist...)

Comment by Randy Inman

June 23rd 2009 01:19
Jeff when you go see that proctologist see if he can find your head.

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